Posts by 2escaped lifers

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Question for those who work in food service...

by Elsewhere in

jw
friends

today i went out to get lunch at a little shop that sells sandwiches.

i got one, but they were closing so i could not eat it there.

i decided to go to a nearby barns & noble bookstore with a starbucks style cafe.

2escaped lifers

Never heard of a health regulation like that, I believe the employee was trying to get you to purchase their own products.

Several years ago, I saw a restaurant manager get fired for this very thing. My father and I were involved with the design and construction of a number of Jack's Hamburger restaurants, popular here in the South. Their corporate offices are here in Alabama, or at least they were almost twenty years ago, anyway. We were eating at a Jack's that we were going to renovate with one of the Jack's corporate VP's, and we watched the manager (who didn't know who we were, or who the VP was) go over to a guy with food from a nearby restaurant, but a Jack's drink. The manager told him he would either have to purchase his whole meal there, or he would have to leave. Before the offended customer could get up out of his seat, the VP had jumped up, chewed out the manager and fired him on the spot in front of the guy, apologized to the man and told him he could have a free burger there for the rest of his life, wrote out a note to the fact and signed it and gave it to the man.

So, I don't think there is any legit health department code that would preclude what you did.

Brandon

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My son is on his way back to Iraq for his SECOND tour!!!

by Miata in

another day.

i don't want to fight anymore.. i've asked myself 100 times before, what's this all really for?

i'm overwhelmed with dread.. just another day in baghdad.

2escaped lifers

(((Miata))) and your (((son))),

I feel for both of you, and am sorry you both feel the way you do. Know that our thoughts are with you both!!!

It is a shame that our forces are stretched so thin that your son must make yet another sacrifice. Regardless of how we feel personally about the reasons behind why we're in Iraq, know that we sincerely appreciate your son's noble sacrifices on behalf of the rest of us.

With warmest regards,

Brandon Bartlett

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Media's coverage has distorted world's view of Iraqi reality

by Elsewhere in

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453389.0680555557.html

media's coverage has distorted world's view of iraqi reality .

by ltc tim ryanspecial to world tribune.com.

2escaped lifers

fleaman,

Again, are you there? Do you see what is really going on on a daily basis, or do you just watch the news?

If he's not a good guy, is he a bad guy then? Would that make the insurgents and terrorists the good guys? Or Hussein a good guy, just trying to defend his country against imperialist capitalist pig Americans?

Brandon

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Media's coverage has distorted world's view of Iraqi reality

by Elsewhere in

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453389.0680555557.html

media's coverage has distorted world's view of iraqi reality .

by ltc tim ryanspecial to world tribune.com.

2escaped lifers

Hey six,

are you over there? Do you have any other information upon which to base your decision to call "horseshit" than what you see in the news?

Are you an expert in foreign affairs, nation building, politics, war, or history?

Then don't be so quick to shout your ignorance to the world!

Brandon

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Tempers A Flare at "Quick Builds"

by orangefatcat in

jw
friends

have any of you noticed that when "quick built", kh.

were being done that many tempers flared amongst brothers.

some were vicious and cruel and rude.

2escaped lifers

I saw a lot of it at Quick Builds. I began working on them in the mid 80's, and rarely missed one in our region until I left the cult three years ago.

For several years I was an Assistant Department Head of the Design Department in our Region, which meant we did all the drawings for the builds. We had to meet numerous times with the local body of elders and the regional qb committee, well before the quick build ever started. This was one of the things that started me questioning my faith, because some of these meetings, which were only elders and the occassional ministerial servant, were extremely combative. Local elders wanted their way, the regional committee wanted their way, and the occassional Circuit Overseer or District Overseer demanded his input. Sometimes these meetings would end with elders, grown "spiritually mature" men, walking out on the meeting and slamming the door in anger. On more than one occassion, the regional committee had to write "ugly" letters to CO's and DO's who stuck their nose in the regional committee's business.

Department head meetings could also get pretty nasty. I had one electrical department head tell me I was stupid and that there was no way in hell he was going to install the electrical service panels like our drawings showed (which had been approved by an Architect and approved by the local building officials). He didn't like the extra trouble it took to install commercial type electrical panels, he was going to install two side by side residential power panels, and wire the place like he wanted. We argued for quite some time, even the regional committee had to get involved, and can you believe that they sided with the electrical guy because our region didn't have many experienced electricians, and they didn't want to piss him off, or he wouldn't come. They said they had dealt with him before, and if we pushed him too hard, he would just pack up his tools and leave the site. So rather than risk losing this guy, the regional committee let him wire the hall in an illegal manner, and tried to run interference when the inspectors came, and somehow got away with it.

Anyway, I saw plenty of ugly arguments, and most of them were not on the job site, but between bodies of elders. I have been in plenty of worldly business and construction meetings, and rarely do they get as heated or ugly as some of the quick build meetings. Sheesh....

Brandon

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I am no longer the only one in Knoxville

by Junction-Guy in

jw
friends

bingo!!

after nearly 3 1/2 years living in this "dead zone" they call knoxville i have finally met up with someone local from the board.

her name is michelle and she is from louisiana and has just recently started posting here.

2escaped lifers

You're not alone in Alabama, either. My wife and I are currently in Gadsden working on a construction project. where in Alabama are you from, if you don't mind sharing.

Brandon

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anyone now have an aversion to dress clothes?

by spike2 in

anyone else have an aversion to dress clothes, now that you aren't forced to wear a suit and tie (women insert their version here) to sit a stadium for 8 hours on a summer day?

being forced to do this as a young child traumatized me pretty good!

2escaped lifers

Brandon had me give all his ties to Good Will.

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Hamas Founder DEAD

by Yerusalyim in

are we ignoring the fact that israel finally took out ahmed yassin, the founder of hamas, which has killed so many innocent people?.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4575552/.

my opinion...what took so long?

2escaped lifers

Why does everyone think we need to understand hundreds of years worth of political history to try and solve the problem. We don't, and neither do the Israeli's or Palestinians(sp?), live a hundred years ago - or forty years ago - or in the 60's, 70's, etc. We, and they, live NOW. Moving on from here is what is important!

Most of the people living in that area NOW probably know as little as we do about the complex historical circumstances that brought us to where we are today.

For example, I'm a construction Project Manager. I've inherited large construction projects that were cluster-F#$%'s, either because the prior PM got fired or quit. I didn't, and couldn't, waste my time on researching and ascertaining how the project got so messed up. I had to focus on correcting the problems as they currently stood, and making the decisions necessary to turn the job around and finish it on-time and on-budget. In short, a successful resolution of a problem does not necessarily involve a complete and expansive knowledge of what led up to the problem.

Another thought: Irregardless of what led up to the problems, or who was short-changed by whom, THERE IS NEVER ANY EXCUSE FOR THE WILLFUL KILLING OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS. I have not read or seen any evidence to show that the Israeli's intentionally target or intend to harm civilians. Their targets are terrorist sites or individuals. Any Palestenian casualties are basically "collateral" damage, or unintended victims. However, it is the terrorist's stated goal to murder as many innocent civilians as is possible - that's the definition of terrorism. Kill innocents to instill terror in your enemy, hoping this will cause them to change whatever it is the terrorist doesn't like. So I have nothing but praise for their targeting of, and elimination of, the leader of HAMAS. Civilized human society can no longer tolerate these backward, vicious killers.

Brandon Bartlett

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George Orwell's '1984'

by Winston Smith :>D in

on a thread it was asked how we chose our screen name.

mine is from the book george orwell's, 1984. .

'winston smith' is the protagonist who big brother tries to crush.. the book, along with george orwell's animal farm, are required reading imo for any jw/x-jw.. actually, the book is a great insight into what can happen when individuals surrender their freedom to any high control group.. .

2escaped lifers

Odrade: Here, Here!!!! (and thunderous applause!)

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Active Jehovah's Witnesses - - - PLEASE READ

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

an open letter to all jehovah's witnesses.

dear friend, .

what caused you to come and read the posts of so many of your former brothers and sisters who have either been disfellowshipped or have chosen to walk away from the society and the 'truth'?

2escaped lifers

Suzyque: WELCOME!!!!! Feel free to express yourself, vent, and share openly.

Nic: Great post!!